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Heh, I would like you to meet my roommate. She is almost 23 years old and has a pretty serious case of ADHD. When she's not on her medication, she acts like she's drunk, steals her housemates' food, doesn't stop talking, and can hardly make herself do anything besides, well, do nothing. And it really, really annoys the crap out of me. I can't stay in the same room alone with her for more than 10 minutes without fuming on the inside if she's not medicated.
Sometimes my 24 year old brother (ADHD as well as Aspergers syndrome) is kinda ridiculous where it feels like I'm disciplining a dog on occasion. I recall situations resulting in me saying "stop it" every 20-30 seconds while he obliviously spasms his hands or won't stop jumping up and down, all the while being a 6'4" 200 pound man, which immediately results in the entire house shaking like a 5.0 magnitude earthquake. He also obliviously wanders into the basement to see what I'm doing regardless of the many other distractions around him (like the 9 video game systems we have set up around the house) and this can get awkward when I have to entertain him with: "Hey, I'm watching South Park," and allowing him to watch it over my shoulder for several episodes, all the while hiding my true objective two tabs over reading "this is totally not porn."
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As for ADD, it's a mental disorder, but not as bad as ADHD. I don't believe that children below the middle school age should be medicated for it unless it's really, really serious. And even by that point, you don't have to be medicated. I know several people who aren't, and some people who are. And that's a personal decision to make. Some people who have a less serious form of it can receive therapy as an alternative to medication.
^Agrees.

I remember when I was in middle school and one day one friend came to school...all different. Turns out, he was taking medication for ADD. I'm glad his parents stopped making him take it at such a young age. That, and it turned out he didn't need it in the end.
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I have depression, severe anxiety, ADHD, and my mom believes I have OCD. I'm always washing my hands. @_@ I also have Asberger's.

I have about at least one anxiety attack a day. I just live with it. Though, they get worse by the occurrence. Now they can make me feel like vomiting. >_> My depression started when I was 13, sorta was off and on. My ADHD... I was probably jumping in the womb as a zygote...
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I think I have OCD. I'm always looking at my hands to see if there's anything there and I freak out whenever my sisters "pick at themselves"...Its disgusting. I always double check to see if everything is turned off and locked up every night. <---this has drove me insane to the point where I can't even play my PS3 at night anymore. Also, my mind is filled with a whole bunch of stuff that I can't seem to make it go away. I haven't told my mom this because she might think that I'm insane.. I don't think I have anything else though.
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you guys do know that it takes more than mini freak outs and being very vivid washer to be considered a suffer of OCD
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you guys do know that it takes more than mini freak outs and being very vivid washer to be considered a suffer of OCD
Agreed. I think some people should say they have 'obsessive compulsive tendencies' versus having the actual disorder.

I have tendencies - I have a thing with even numbers. If buy a shirt, I have to buy the same shirt in another color so I have 2 shirts of the same type. I can't have 1 of the type because 1 is an odd number.

Another example - say there are 3 apples. I will take and eat an apple because that means the number of apples left is 2. However, if there were 4 apples, I would not take one because the number left is 3. I do not want to leave an odd number remaining.

Considering all of this, I still do not have OCD. It doesn't greatly interfere with my day to day activities in such a way that it is harmful.
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My mother suspects me to be depressed, and possibly schizophrenic.

She wanted to get me a counselor, once when I was little, and again a few months ago. :I
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Old 07-28-2010
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Well, do you think you're depressed and schizophrenic?
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I know it takes more than minor things to be diagnosed with OCD. I obsess over my mom's hands being clean, my hands being clean. There also this thing I do in RPGs when leveling up in which I go around in a very small area. You'd understand this one if you saw me in a game like Earth Eternal. I'm currently leveling my main to 48, and I will get angry if anyone does anything to destroy the order in which enemies spawn. I get mad if I do so, as well. It's kinda hard to explain.

My hand washing does make my days pretty hard, because I end up washing my hands just because I see soap or sanitizer.

I remember wondering if I was depressed I knew I was, but felt no one would believe me, so I did some strange stuff to let my mom know, like make it worse. It was stupid, and I wish I never made what could have left worse, but I gotta pay for my mistakes now. She would never believe me when I said I had a problem, and needed help. She just told me, "Oh. It's just because you're 14."

>_> Hey mother, thanks for getting the message after I had an anxiety attack in school.

I've had therapist for my ADHD when I was younger. My first one just said, "Oh. She is mentally challenged." Thankfully, my mom knew I wasn't. It took awhile until a doctor told my mom I did have ADHD and needed to be medicated. Before that... I was a mess. I was bouncing all over the place. I'm on Concerta now, and am doing well.

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Well, do you think you're depressed and schizophrenic?
Possibly so.
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Possibly so.
I thought I was schizophrenic once, but I doubt I am. I just have a vivid imagination. XD I talk to myself because I'm more interesting to talk to than half the people I know in real life. No one really wants to talk about things that I like. My intelligectial level is higher than a lot of people, too. My IQ is 128, so I have trouble finding anyone who actually has interests in talking about stuff in a less on the surface light.
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personally I think I am completely insane, but quacks and such assure me I'm not (I do know I am OCD)
if they only knew, I had them wrapped around my finger
they thought I was below average intelligence when I was young, I got an IQ test, 150
I donno if I'm that smart, it doesn't matter since I don't care about education at all
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I got told I was mentally challenged by a doctor when I was very young because I failed at this:

*shows picture of dog with a collar that looked like a belt*
"That dog is wearing a belt."
"It's a collar."
"No, it's a belt!"

Here's a funny thing from that same visit:

"Do you hear voices in your head?" - Doctor
"Mom, do I?" - Me
"No." - Mom
"No, do you?" - Me

After the visit was over, the doctor basically was saying, "Keep her away from me!" in a nice way.

I still laugh about the story. :D

The dog wearing a belt idea I had stemmed from my grandma putting belts on her dogs. This made me think it was no big deal.
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doctors are stupid, they cause more mental health problems then they cure
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This doctor made for the best story to tell people ever, at least. Knowledge of mental disorders in the 90's sucked, anyway, so no surprise the doctor thought I was retarded.
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as long as you have something to say
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i have ADD not as bad as ADHD but still annoying to not be able to concentrate well.
also causes me to get bored and lose interest really fast.

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i have ADD not as bad as ADHD but still annoying to not be able to concentrate well.
also causes me to get bored and lose interest really fast.
Story of my life. I drink coke and coffee to make me concentrate better.
>_> I need to lay off it a bit. I'm gonna become immortal before I can lose my mind by the age of 80. Do not want.
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personally I think I am completely insane, but quacks and such assure me I'm not (I do know I am OCD)
if they only knew, I had them wrapped around my finger
they thought I was below average intelligence when I was young, I got an IQ test, 150
I donno if I'm that smart, it doesn't matter since I don't care about education at all
I think you mean an IQ of 015....
But I think you kids feel too sorry for yourselves and should stop discussing your woes stories about your "problems" to other (real life) attention seekers.
It just proves how sheltered you are in our society.
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You said what many were thinking but too afraid to say.
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Knowledge of mental disorders in the 90's sucked
This is true. Our knowledge of mental disorders has definitely increased and people are actually being diagnosed with them correctly, for the most part. People complain about how ADD and ADHD are overdiagnosed or whatever, but I'm not really sure if that's even true anymore.

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I think you mean an IQ of 015....
But I think you kids feel too sorry for yourselves and should stop discussing your woes stories about your "problems" to other (real life) attention seekers.
It just proves how sheltered you are in our society.
kthnxbai.
To be fair, there HAS been good discussion in this thread. There's a difference between sharing your mental problems with people to be informative and sharing your mental problems because you want people to feel sorry for you.

But you are right. Life sucks for everyone at least at some point in their lives. Sharing them on public Internet forums doesn't necessarily do any real good.
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I think you mean an IQ of 015....
But I think you kids feel too sorry for yourselves and should stop discussing your woes stories about your "problems" to other (real life) attention seekers.
It just proves how sheltered you are in our society.
kthnxbai.
lol, I think your my new hero <_<
-joke, I would not put it as strongly as this, because are things i have read on here, which I think is informative and think their story deverses our regard (Edbat is good case of this)...etc, but I have read too many comments which stink of self-defeat and acceptance, maybe I sound overly critical, but like you said, we all take shit on layer cake of life, its what you do with that shit which counts, some will turn the shit in compost which use to feed seeds of better tomorrow, others will lay in it and make big smell

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This is true. Our knowledge of mental disorders has definitely increased and people are actually being diagnosed with them correctly, for the most part. People complain about how ADD and ADHD are overdiagnosed or whatever, but I'm not really sure if that's even true anymore.
They are, pure and simple, I mean the fact this is a personality disorder leaves it on shaky ground from start (not saying is not real, just personality disorders very different to other mental "illness" (use as umbrella term here)) and USA is the worst for this, I read in one study (though not sure how reliable it was) that something like 15% of children under 9 in US are being given drugs for mental illness's of varying degree's, including bed wetting, seriously WTF, I know that you are on about ADHD, but point is all these "minor” deficiencies are getting over obversed and this is just under 9's, even worse for teen's
-lets face it, I know living in western world doesn't make life perfect, trust me, I do know, but it could be a lot worse for us and those who deal with that worse in many cases, do so in way which can only be admired. So have responsability to deal with our problems, as they do with there's, my Mum may not be perfect, but least she is alive and trying, rather dead and leaving me with 12 siblings to look after
-humans are lot more robust than we give ourselves credit for

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To be fair, there HAS been good discussion in this thread. There's a difference between sharing your mental problems with people to be informative and sharing your mental problems because you want people to feel sorry for you.

But you are right. Life sucks for everyone at least at some point in their lives. Sharing them on public Internet forums doesn't necessarily do any real good.
=I think for me, it depends on how they present themselves, some seem to present themselves like having a mental "illness" is badge of honour or fashionable, others seem to present themselves as in rut of self-pity, this have must admit do annoy me (many will not like me for believing this, but I honest about what I believe)
-however there are some who just state their stories to add an interesting point or because want actually just want someone to listen to them and these are ones I will listen to with more caring ear, because everyone sometimes needs to let off things and doing it to faceless internet users be lot easier than real person

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They are, pure and simple, I mean the fact this is a personality disorder leaves it on shaky ground from start (not saying is not real, just personality disorders very different to other mental "illness" (use as umbrella term here)) and USA is the worst for this, I read in one study (though not sure how reliable it was) that something like 15% of children under 9 in US are being given drugs for mental illness's of varying degree's, including bed wetting, seriously WTF, I know that you are on about ADHD, but point is all these "minor” deficiencies are getting over obversed and this is just under 9's, even worse for teen's
-lets face it, I know living in western world doesn't make life perfect, trust me, I do know, but it could be a lot worse for us and those who deal with that worse in many cases, do so in way which can only be admired. So have responsability to deal with our problems, as they do with there's, my Mum may not be perfect, but least she is alive and trying, rather dead and leaving me with 12 siblings to look after
-humans are lot more robust than we give ourselves credit for
I've never heard of ADD or ADHD as personality disorders. I don't think that even makes any sense... my roommate has to take medication for ADHD and it actually works at making her focus. I'd still consider it to be a not-as-serious mental disorder, where you can function with or without meds depending on your circumstances and how severe of a case you have.

I do agree that children shouldn't be medicated under most circumstances.

...wait, bed-wetting? That happens because kids don't go to the bathroom on time or they drink too much water before bed, not because it's a mental disorder... ugh. People. Just put some pull-ups on them and they'll outgrow the bed-wetting eventually.

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=I think for me, it depends on how they present themselves, some seem to present themselves like having a mental "illness" is badge of honour or fashionable, others seem to present themselves as in rut of self-pity, this have must admit do annoy me (many will not like me for believing this, but I honest about what I believe)
-however there are some who just state their stories to add an interesting point or because want actually just want someone to listen to them and these are ones I will listen to with more caring ear, because everyone sometimes needs to let off things and doing it to faceless internet users be lot easier than real person
Yes, this is pretty much what I meant by my post. It's really easy to tell which person is which, too.
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Well I was on medication that I didn't need but living in LA I turned it into a positive I got a medicinal marijuana card for an "Illness" I had since I was 12 on my 18th birthday like the same day... It was a really good day and cheap too only 45$ registration fee anyone want a card I have it...

so hurray for a totally screwed up system and My ability to take advantage of it!!
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I think you mean an IQ of 015....
But I think you kids feel too sorry for yourselves and should stop discussing your woes stories about your "problems" to other (real life) attention seekers.
It just proves how sheltered you are in our society.
kthnxbai.
Amazing. Just because we talk about our mental disorders on the internet, we are sharing woe stories, are sheltered, society is actually something that should make sense, are attention seekers, and have low IQs and are able to type correctly despite having a low IQ under 50.

Thanks. I know how mentally challenged and stupid I am, despite not having been stupid.

Guess what? I'm one of the kids here just wanting to talk about my mental disorders. I hate attention, and am talking about past occurances, not current ones. I am not sheltered. If I was, I wouldn't even know about mental disorder knowledge being horrid in the 90's.

You are telling the truth about some of the people posting, obviously. I do find it offensive from a less personal point of view. Many of us actually DO have problems. Try living my life. Try it. Try having anxiety attacks over nothing, and not knowing what to do about it.

Now I leave this post with something nice.

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I've never heard of ADD or ADHD as personality disorders. I don't think that even makes any sense... my roommate has to take medication for ADHD and it actually works at making her focus. I'd still consider it to be a not-as-serious mental disorder, where you can function with or without meds depending on your circumstances and how severe of a case you have.

I do agree that children shouldn't be medicated under most circumstances.

...wait, bed-wetting? That happens because kids don't go to the bathroom on time or they drink too much water before bed, not because it's a mental disorder... ugh. People. Just put some pull-ups on them and they'll outgrow the bed-wetting eventually.
=Well if actual serious case of ADD then medication is actually fair to use here, but there are so many cases, where they just throw the drugs around like confetti and it concerns me, because as Turtle shows, it is being a legalised drug trade (case point, Englands reaction to the bird flu, ok that physical illness, but the reaction was all economically driven, to support a drug grown and sold in UK legally, so could make money out of false pandemic)

=With personality disorder, I am sure it is, though will have to check when got more time as did that from memory at 1 in morning.
-Though my point about personality disorders is that they are personality traits we can all have quite easily, but taken to a level of extremity so bad that becomes a problem to their ability to function (unlike say a psychosomatic illness which is where mind is actually detracted from reality)

=Even Anorexia is a personality disorder.
-This is actually what I meant about them being on shaky ground, as generally because things we have, just extreme in nature it can make diagnosing them really hard, because the doctor has to basically draw s line between "normal" and "abnormal" and well how heck meant to do that o_0

=I also blame the internet here, because with the internet people have suddenly been given chance to read about this things and then because this are not physical but mental actions, it all based on subjective things, two of the best examples of this are:-

1=Parent or child believes have problem, though only real mild at time, so go on internet reads about something like ADD and then think I have that, but now because believe have it and more aware of the actions which innate to it, they begin acting worse and the self-fulfilling prophesy takes effect, so what would have never been even noticed by world before or just seen as child with active body suddenly becomes seen as an abnormality and problem

2=Demand characteristic's or hawthorn theory, take effect where believe know what doctor is looking for and though probably without any miss-intent they overly show these characteristic's

=These are just two examples of problems with diagnosing these things, this is not to say all cases are like this, but will be many and though i am over playing point of internet, do not think it is coincidence that these massive raises in this field coincide with the raise of internet (though these problems can appear in similar ways without internet)

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=yer, was not really disagreeing with you here, just saying how i saw it
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=Well if actual serious case of ADD then medication is actually fair to use here, but there are so many cases, where they just throw the drugs around like confetti and it concerns me, because as Turtle shows, it is being a legalised drug trade (case point, Englands reaction to the bird flu, ok that physical illness, but the reaction was all economically driven, to support a drug grown and sold in UK legally, so could make money out of false pandemic)
I take Concerta, and have a pretty bad case of ADHD. I'm actually a quiet, calm person, but without my medication, you get this:

Me: *insert confusing babble about video games, coffee, and technology innards*

Yeah... Don't come near me during such times unless you want to learn about the inside of Chinese electronics, and what I think about Moombas over Moogles. My mom deals with it all the time. I even review everything to her for some reason. Ever since I got into the hobby of watching, listening to, and reading reviews, I've done my own to my mom. I even review my own feet... That's probably just a part of my Asberger's, as I have some strange fixations on the following:

The inside of anything I can take apart(awaiting the day the laptop I'm using dies, so I can look inside it)
Fictional characters, and the details we don't even need to care about them
Technology anything
Computer stuff
The need to make people get a better view on the subcultures I have interests in
Organization
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My therapist, sadly, thought I needed anti-psychotics that can be used for autism just because I was playing with the toys in his office the whole time. I'm 15, and that's apparently weird... I just like toys, and those ones with the balls and stuff that are like a ball rollarcoaster, I can't keep my hands off those. They're a blast to play with.

I'm off that medicine, luckily. It made me tired. I'm taking Klonopin for my anxiety, and it's doing good, thankfully. My Ativan was starting to become a part of my system, which means it wasn't gonna work for long.

My body is quite used to strong medication, as I take 90 mg of Concerta when I can take it early enough. I used to take Zoloft for depression and anxiety, but... I had my mom get me off it the first or second day because all it did was make me very angry. I'm taking Lexapro now, and it actually works. Zoloft probably would make me one violent kitty... I'm scared just imagining.

I took a number of different ADHD/ADD medications before my parents settled for Concerta. One of the medicines caused me to think I was seeing bugs on my curtains, and I was ready to tear them off.

I should write a book on my childhood. The ADHD and really the first few years I learned to talk... would be the biggest sellers. My first word was one you shouldn't say if you live in a town populated by a lot of Asians. My sister liked to say it when my mom and her went out for Chinese food. Guess what? I picked up the word, and knew not to say it around my dad, but said it around an Asian.
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My roommate takes Concerta in the morning and Ritalin in the afternoon.

It's really not a personality thing... she's still the most extraverted person in the world even with her meds, but without them not only is she the most extraverted person in the world, she won't shut up about anything and is literally unable to do basic routine tasks like getting ready for bed. When her meds have worn off, and she's not in bed yet, I literally have to start dragging her to bed - I feel like her mom or her babysitter, lol. If her meds haven't worn off by the time she starts getting ready for bed, she can get to bed all by herself like a regular 22 year old.

I can understand why people would think it's a personality thing, though... it's easy to say, "Oh they don't have a mental disorder, hyperactivity is just part of their personality." Well, that may be true, but you have to remember the Attention Deficit part as well.
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My roommate takes Concerta in the morning and Ritalin in the afternoon.

I can understand why people would think it's a personality thing, though... it's easy to say, "Oh they don't have a mental disorder, hyperactivity is just part of their personality." Well, that may be true, but you have to remember the Attention Deficit part as well.
sally you do know that personality disorders are 1 of the offical forms of mental disorders, it is an actual medical term
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I can't sleep medicine or not. XD
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